来此论坛时日不多，一个周日的下午灌了几贴水，不久就收到某位老大的message，说不发贴没关系的。于是自觉惭愧，删除或修改了自已的贴子。
下面是我给他几次回贴中的一贴，写的比较多，不想丢了，就放到自已在javaeye里BLOG吧。
留个记念。
[quote]
非常感谢你先给我发短信而不是在论坛里批我的方式。
回ff1.5的我已删了，自已都不记得写了什么，周末灌水而已，正所你所说，这种贴“不发贴没有关系的”。
...
对svg e4x没用过，也没什么认识。
就聊聊FF吧
但ff的市场占有率我是不信的。
首先你得看什么人才会接受调查，还有什么人有投票意愿。可能你觉得武断，我的经验是FF的占有率是被高估了至少一倍。
[note] That good for survey only, if marketing share data is coming from machine visit analysis, I should look in it is counted by clicks or sessions or IPs. Anyway The flaw of using visit data as marketing share is: people using FF views more websites than normal users.
再说到龚断，IE是随操作系统安装的，MS可不可以宣称IE的占有率是windows用户的100%?
大多数用户是一直使用他所见到的第一个软件的（这是某个知名人士的文章里说的，来源不记得了）。我就曾遇到这样的事，有一次公司某部秘书说不能使用我做的网页。跑去一看，她据然还在用一个非常老的的netscape版本，我写的javascript出错。于是让她用IE，她说不会？！！
所以我认为只有少部分喜欢追求新奇的用户与IT人士才知道FF的存在。FF要真想拥有比较稳定的份额，必须与各个服务商或硬件商捆绑才行。
随便写写。
祝工作顺利。
[/quote]
再补充几句, 上面我提到市场分析时并没研究他们的数据是如何来的及可信度分析, 只是跟据普通的商业及政治survey,纯属信口开河.
话说回来,就算是机器分析所得的数据也是把柄的.
[url]http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp[/url]
Browser Statistics Month by Month
2005 IE 6 IE 5 Ffox Moz NN 7 O 8 O 7
Oct 67.5% 6.0% 19.6% 2.6% 0.4% 1.2% 0.2%
Sep 69.8% 5.7% 18.0% 2.5% 0.4% 1.0% 0.2%
[quote]Why so high Firefox figures?
W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.
These facts indicate that the browser figures below are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.
Anyway, our data, collected over a two year period, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends.
[/quote]
这个网站自已也说,使用这个网站的用户是IT 技术型的,比较偏爱用与众不同的浏览器.
[url]http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox40_browser_market_firefox_growing.html[/url]
OneStat.com is the number one provider of real-time web site analytics in the world. Our superior technology powers more than 50,000 websites in 100 countries. With our accurate, detailed & reliable reports we will be able to answer questions about visitor behaviour, site performance and retention.
Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com's services by using browser Y. All numbers mentioned in the research are averages of last week and all measurements are normalised to the GMT timezone. Research is based on a sample of 2 million visitors divided into 20,000 visitors of 100 countries each day.
这个网站的数据是从使用自已service的网站得到的.
1. Microsoft IE 85.45 %
2. Mozilla Firefox 11.51 %
就比w3school IT技术型网站低了很多.
Google了一下,中文的新闻很多重复的某月FF突破10%,而英文返回的就有提到FF share 下掉的新闻.
FF1.5刚发布,很多人会尝新,反正是免费的.
比如我,刚拿到FF时拼命用了一陈,,最后还是不能丢用惯的IE. FF的统计数据高一陈后自然会下来,特别是他目前没有什么有效的方法让什么都怀懂的新用户第一次就使用FF并忠实的用下去. 想到打败IE,恐怕只有微软自已.
下面是我给他几次回贴中的一贴，写的比较多，不想丢了，就放到自已在javaeye里BLOG吧。
留个记念。
[quote]
非常感谢你先给我发短信而不是在论坛里批我的方式。
回ff1.5的我已删了，自已都不记得写了什么，周末灌水而已，正所你所说，这种贴“不发贴没有关系的”。
...
对svg e4x没用过，也没什么认识。
就聊聊FF吧
但ff的市场占有率我是不信的。
首先你得看什么人才会接受调查，还有什么人有投票意愿。可能你觉得武断，我的经验是FF的占有率是被高估了至少一倍。
[note] That good for survey only, if marketing share data is coming from machine visit analysis, I should look in it is counted by clicks or sessions or IPs. Anyway The flaw of using visit data as marketing share is: people using FF views more websites than normal users.
再说到龚断，IE是随操作系统安装的，MS可不可以宣称IE的占有率是windows用户的100%?
大多数用户是一直使用他所见到的第一个软件的（这是某个知名人士的文章里说的，来源不记得了）。我就曾遇到这样的事，有一次公司某部秘书说不能使用我做的网页。跑去一看，她据然还在用一个非常老的的netscape版本，我写的javascript出错。于是让她用IE，她说不会？！！
所以我认为只有少部分喜欢追求新奇的用户与IT人士才知道FF的存在。FF要真想拥有比较稳定的份额，必须与各个服务商或硬件商捆绑才行。
随便写写。
祝工作顺利。
[/quote]
再补充几句, 上面我提到市场分析时并没研究他们的数据是如何来的及可信度分析, 只是跟据普通的商业及政治survey,纯属信口开河.
话说回来,就算是机器分析所得的数据也是把柄的.
[url]http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp[/url]
Browser Statistics Month by Month
2005 IE 6 IE 5 Ffox Moz NN 7 O 8 O 7
Oct 67.5% 6.0% 19.6% 2.6% 0.4% 1.2% 0.2%
Sep 69.8% 5.7% 18.0% 2.5% 0.4% 1.0% 0.2%
[quote]Why so high Firefox figures?
W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.
These facts indicate that the browser figures below are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.
Anyway, our data, collected over a two year period, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends.
[/quote]
这个网站自已也说,使用这个网站的用户是IT 技术型的,比较偏爱用与众不同的浏览器.
[url]http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox40_browser_market_firefox_growing.html[/url]
OneStat.com is the number one provider of real-time web site analytics in the world. Our superior technology powers more than 50,000 websites in 100 countries. With our accurate, detailed & reliable reports we will be able to answer questions about visitor behaviour, site performance and retention.
Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com's services by using browser Y. All numbers mentioned in the research are averages of last week and all measurements are normalised to the GMT timezone. Research is based on a sample of 2 million visitors divided into 20,000 visitors of 100 countries each day.
这个网站的数据是从使用自已service的网站得到的.
1. Microsoft IE 85.45 %
2. Mozilla Firefox 11.51 %
就比w3school IT技术型网站低了很多.
Google了一下,中文的新闻很多重复的某月FF突破10%,而英文返回的就有提到FF share 下掉的新闻.
FF1.5刚发布,很多人会尝新,反正是免费的.
比如我,刚拿到FF时拼命用了一陈,,最后还是不能丢用惯的IE. FF的统计数据高一陈后自然会下来,特别是他目前没有什么有效的方法让什么都怀懂的新用户第一次就使用FF并忠实的用下去. 想到打败IE,恐怕只有微软自已.
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