国外的 iOS 开发者是怎么看中国的？（上）

国外的 iOS 开发者是怎么看中国的？他们关心中国的哪些话题？来听听 Saul Mora 和我的交流吧！

这是我在 @Swift 大会上第一次完成全英文的演讲之后，和 Sual Mora 的全英文的交流。不能不说，我的口语还有很多问题，但是迈出这一步之后，感觉也没什么大不了的，希望大家都有信心用好英文。就像我在节目中所说的那样，这能帮助你与全世界的开发者交流。

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For western friends’ convenience, this article is written in both English & Chinese.

为了方便外国朋友阅读，这篇文章由中英双语写成。

Saul Mora is a very experienced iOS programmer, the author of open source project Magic Record. He is from America and works in Liulishuo in Shanghai, because of being interested in China.

Saul Mora 是资深的 iOS 开发者，开源框架 Magic Record 的作者，他虽然是美国人，但是对中国非常感兴趣，于是来到了上海，现在在上海的英语流利说工作。

Saul has his chinese name “毛尚立”, and he is also studying Chinese these days. You probably know Chinese is one of the most difficult language to learn, so it’s not easy for him to master it well in such a short time. But if you meet him, it’ll be nice when you call him “毛尚立”.

Saul Mora 的中国名字是毛尚立，他在努力学习中文，但是你知道中文可能是世界上最难学的语言之一，所以他现在的中文水平还需要提高。不过如果你看见到，直接叫他的中文名字毛尚立，他会非常开心。

Saul Mora is making a talk show, which is called NSBrief. From the name, you definitely can understand it’s a talking show about iOS developers. This talk has already made more than 100 episodes. Luckily, during the 2nd @Swift conference, I became  one of the interviewer of this show. We’ve talked about 40 minutes and our topic includes IT industry, busness model, english environment, chinese education and culture, etc.

Saul Mora 一直在做一档谈话节目，叫 NSbrief，听名字就能知道，这是一档面向 iOS 开发者的节目。这个节目已经做了 100 多期了，趁这次在深圳举办的第二届 @Swift 大会的机会，我成为了他的访谈对象。我们谈了 40 分钟，涉及了中国的IT产业，创业的商业模式，App的免费模式，国内的英文环境，中国教育和文化等问题。

It’s my honor to join this talk and I also learned some different idea from Saul. So if you are interested in, you can listen to this episode. At lease, it’s a way to practise your english listening comprehension. The episode is too larger than wechat’s limit, so I split it into 2 parts.

我很高兴能够接受这次访谈，因为我也有机会了解到国外开发者的想法。所以如果你感兴趣，可以听一听这期访谈的录音，至少你可以借此练习一下英语的听力。录音比较长，我分成两段放在下面：

You can also subscribe NSBrief via iTunes or RSS in its official website: http://nsbrief.com/ .

在 NSBrief 的官网（ http://nsbrief.com/154-tang-qiao/ ）上，你也可以订阅这个节目。

Enjoy and have a good day.

祝大家玩得开心~