读Scoble在LonghornBlogs的discussion

Scoble的LonghornBlogs的“ Sun Microsystems Fires Back at Longhorn”非常有趣.

从开始的讨论就可以感受到MS,SUN,Apple,Oracle剑拔弩张的对立气氛.这个discussion讨论很多技术和商业层次上的问题,例如,盈利问题,版权税问题,仍然记忆犹新的IE与Netscape的浏览器霸主之争,另外这里还谈到很多技术方面的东西,例如XAML,XUL,Macromedia Flex,Mozilla-Java combo,rich client experience,user experience,当然主角还是微软最令人期待的下一代操作系统Longhorn,完全建立在managed code基础之上,包括它的Indigo,Avalon,Yukon和ASP.NET adapters.

看完这篇discussion花费我整整一个下午的时间,不过很值.要好好消化一下.

里面有两个链接分别是Bill Gates和Ballmer在PDC 2000和Fusion 2000上的演讲.允许能够对MS的未来规划和.net有更深的了解.

Ballmer's Keynote From Fusion 2000
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/steve/07-14fusion.asp

Bill Gates Keynote PDC 2000
http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2000/07-12pdc.asp

下面节选几段discussion:

Schwartz is definitely right that the "killer (desktop) app is called the browser". Microsoft’s current thinking is that rich client experience is equivalent to rich desktop experience. XAML has a new XML syntax but is a language for building good old desktop applications. Macromedia seems to be doing the right thing with Flex, their just announced platform for Rich Internet Applications. Hopefully Macromedia Flex and the Mozilla-Java combo that Schwartz mentions will prove to be popular, so that Microsoft realigns its definition of rich client experience with what customers are expecting.
-- George Mladenov

The problem that I feel here is not that Sun doesn't have a good platform, but instead of trying to make money they're trying to knick Microsoft off their perch - at any cost.
-- Michael Ward

The fact is that if Sun can't figure out how to make Java profitable for Sun then they are going to become extinct or someone else's acquisition.
-- Kevin Hegg

Don't be too surprised that I use XP despite my academic work. There are many things that XP does better than any other OS. Namely, in my case, Excel and games. Oh, and for my Senior Project, I am required by my sponsor to develop for Win2k using VisualStudio .NET. In terms of research, Unix platforms do still rule the day in the CU College of Engineering. Applied Math is getting big into MacOS X. CS is the only dept I know of that is fairly evenly spread across Windows XP, Unix and MacOS X. All of the departments face reality: computers are tools. Use the right tool for the job. Also, I wouldn't take CU's one application as an indication that Java is production grade -- look at the industry itself. (Yes, I do vaguely remember that memo... not well nough to respond to it though.) And, lest we forget, Microsoft had just tipped a big hand.
-- Ryan Nielsen

In fact, there are many people who start businesses who know they won't make a profit unless they get acquired by a bigger fish. That's pretty common in the software business since so many people made so much money that way (heck, many of them sold out to Microsoft).
-- Robert Scoble

Anything that can be done in a high level language can be done in C or assembly.However, the HLLs provide valuable abstractions and constructs that permit the developer to focus on the logic and complexity of he application rather than the difficulties of the programming language.
-- Ryan Nielsen

Well, as a developer I look at platforms differently than I do as an end user. As an end user all I really care about "does it solve my problems better than the others?" For everyone that'll be different. I know some guys who use their PCs for doing nothing but playing Flight Simulator. Seriously. Everyone will have a different answer.
-- Robert Scoble


 

转载于:https://www.cnblogs.com/zsi/archive/2004/11/21/66676.html

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