martin fowler_Hanselminutes播客65-Martin Fowler和David Heinemeier Hansson

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My sixty-fifth podcast is up, recorded on the floor RailsConf2007 here in Portland, Oregon. In this episode I sit down with Martin Fowler of Thoughtworks and David Heinemeier Hansson of 37signals and talk about beauty, making developers happy, the death (or life) of HTML, the future of Microsoft, and I ask if we should care about Rich Internet Applications. DHH is the creator of the Ruby on Rails framework, and Martin Fowler is the Chief Scientist at ThoughtWorks, well-known systems architect and Extreme Programming expert.

我的第六十五个播客已经播完，记录在俄勒冈州波特兰市的RailsConf2007地板上。 在这一集中，我与Thoughtworks的Martin Fowler和37signals的David Heinemeier Hansson坐下来，谈论美，使开发人员高兴，HTML的死(或亡)，微软的未来，我问我们是否应该关心Rich Internet应用程序。 DHH是Ruby on Rails框架的创建者，Martin Fowler是ThoughtWorks的首席科学家，著名的系统架构师和极限编程专家。

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This episode is chock full of goodness and good guests, so it's double the ordinary length, clocking in at over 40 minutes, so forgive me, as all three of us tried not to waste the listener's time.

这一集充满了善良和好客，所以它是普通时长的两倍，每次播放40分钟以上就可以收看，所以请原谅我，因为我们三个人都没有浪费听众的时间。

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演出链接 (Links from the Show)

Martin Fowler's Bliki (p5p) RailsConf 2007 • May 17, 2007 - May 20, 2007 • Portland, Oregon (p5r) Ruby on Rails (p5t) Loud Thinking by David Heinemeier Hansson (p5q) Jesse James Garrett's Information architecture resources (p5s) Tree Surgeon for .NET (p5u)

Martin Fowler的Bliki(p5p) RailsConf 2007•2007年5月17日-2007年5月20日•俄勒冈州波特兰(p5r) Ruby on Rails(p5t)大声思考David Heinemeier Hansson(p5q) Jesse James Garrett的信息架构资源(p5s)树.NET外科医生(p5u)

Do also remember the complete archives are always up and they have PDF Transcripts, a little known feature that show up a few weeks after each show.

还请记住，完整的档案总是在打开的，并且它们都有PDF文字记录，这是一个鲜为人知的功能，在每次演出后的几周内就会显示出来。

Telerik is our sponsor for this show.

Telerik是该节目的赞助商。

Check out their UI Suite of controls for ASP.NET . It's very hardcore stuff. One of the things I appreciate about Telerik is their commitment to completeness. For example, they have a page about their Right-to-Left support  while some vendors have zero support, or don't bother testing. They also are committed to XHTML compliance and publish their roadmap. It's nice when your controls vendor is very transparent.

查看他们的ASP.NET控件UI套件。 这是非常重要的东西。 我对Telerik的欣赏之一是他们对完整性的承诺。 例如，他们有一个有关其从右到左支持的页面，而一些供应商则是零支持或不打扰测试。 他们还致力于遵守XHTML并发布路线图。 控件供应商非常透明时，这很好。

As I've said before this show comes to you with the audio expertise and stewardship of Carl Franklin. The name comes from Travis Illig, but the goal of the show is simple. Avoid wasting the listener's time. (and make the commute less boring)

就像我在节目之前所说的那样，卡尔富兰克林( Carl Franklin)具有音频专业知识和指导。 名称来自Travis Illig ，但演出的目标很简单。 避免浪费听众的时间。 (并使通勤变得更无聊)

Enjoy. Who knows what'll happen in the next show?

请享用。 谁知道下一场演出会发生什么？

翻译自: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/hanselminutes-podcast-65-martin-fowler-and-david-heinemeier-hansson

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